There were these 12 year old boys hanging around. As I got my food and left they were all checking me out like little prepubescent lemurs and one of them said “Can I get your number?” And I turned around and said “Why, you need a babysitter?”
marvel still barreling ahead on an ant-man movie that the fucking director walked off of but whenever asked about like black widow or captain marvel or black panther, they’re all “they’re definitely in the works, kind of, sort of, maybe in the future, it’s tough, let’s talk about dr. strange and guardians instead”
Okay, I have had a couple thoughts about this movie boiling up for a while…they are observations, things I saw and experienced, more than actual theories of my own, so please bear with me.
The interesting thing about Frozen is how polarizing it is. People seem to mostly either adore it, or they absolutely hate it with a scorn that seems to go beyond the film’s faults.
I saw it, and I enjoyed it, but I did feel it had some story problems, and many other issues have been raised that make some sense to me, as well. My opinion of the film isn’t the issue.
The thing about Frozen that makes it a phenomenon, I think, is the reaction it inspired, particularly in young girls. I know lots of people of all kinds like it, but man alive, so many young girls love it so deeply that it’s honestly awe-inspiring to see.
I was at the big Disney story in Downtown Disney a few months ago, and in the packed, huge store, LET IT GO came on, and all the women and their daughters just spontaneously started singing. I asked if that was common, to a clerk, and she said it happened every time the store was busy and the song came on. Frozen speaks to people.
It’s written by a woman, it’s co-directed by a woman, and many of the themes are very woman-centric (but famously, not all).
I’m sure you’ve seen how popular it is, it’s going to be a musical on Broadway, it’s made unheard of amounts of money and is one of the most successful Disney films of all time.
But it’s interesting.
I was at an event with some long-time animators once, and they all would not stop gossiping about how horrible Frozen was. They hated the plot, they hated the characters, and a lot of their anger seemed to be aimed at the fact that it was a success. Many comments about how the guy hero was a goof, and the other male a bastard. The gist seemed to be…this isn’t how we have always done these films. And now that it’s a hit, it means our way (the traditional male-driven story) may die out.
They were angry because a girl movie (their term) was a much bigger success than most of the boy movies they had worked on recently. And so every tiny flaw became a HUGE thing. It was weird to watch.
Even weirder was this. I was in a shuttle for a good while with someone who worked on Frozen in an important capacity, I’m not going to mention their name. But they said some startling things that have stuck with me.
They said that when they were working on the film, they all felt it was a beautiful story, and people would stay late and work off the clock to make each scene just a little more beautiful. They said people had a level of dedication to this film that they have never seen before, and that it wasn’t just another job for them. They honestly felt they were working on something special and they all went the extra mile over and over again to make it better.
However, they said that Disney didn’t share their optimism. Apparently, the head office did not have faith in FROZEN at all. They were told not to ‘feel too bad’ if it wasn’t a hit, and that it wasn’t going to get the major ad push of some of Disney’s recent animated films. It was felt that it simply wasn’t that commercial.
Now, Disney has been wrong about films before, obviously. When producing Pocahontas and Lion King at the same time, it was felt by everyone at the head office that the first film was going to be a massive hit, and Lion King was a b-picture (it went on to be the most successful animated film of all time at that point).
But again I wonder, did even Disney, home of the princesses, misread the potential of the female audience?
It’s interesting. I love animated films, I have a real weak spot for them. Frozen didn’t hit me as hard as it did many of you, and I agree there are problematic elements. But it’s clear that they created a film that speaks to huge numbers of people. And it’s interesting that people in the industry seemed to be convinced it would (and should) fail…from the conversations I had, I can’t help but think they felt that because the themes are mostly female.
Just something worth contemplating. I’m not bashing Disney, Lord knows they have made tons of great content that girls love. I just find it interesting that they thought Frozen would flop, and it seems to be at least partially because it’s a ‘girl movie.’
Once again, we see the audience is changing, and females are gaining traction as consumers.
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